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will want to respond to with an familiarity that none of us here really enjoys. and so we have, of course, e.l.doctoro's representation in fiction of their lives, the lives in their parents and all that is supposed to mean. and i know that members of the meeropol family have very, very strong views about the representation. robert, i believe, is very negative about it. you, michael, have found things redemonstrative in it. i've talked enough so let me turn to ivy's documentary which i saw last night for the first time and i'm still so shaken by it i find that it beggar's language in terms of many thoughts one has of indignation and pain at a gross miscarriage of democracy and you open the movie -- >> he's not gone yet. [laughter] >> grandparents grave, forgive me. [laughter] >> it's a voyage of discovery. >> yes, yes. >> why was it so necessary. i would have thought you would have known so much about your grandparents that it would have been just in the atmosphere of so much that you would hardly need to know a great deal more and yet indeed you rediscover history there it seems to me. >> we
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